Re: RT list: Object-Frames and Meta-Frames

From: Andre Sytnyk (danagro@kp.km.ua)
Date: Sat Oct 23 2004 - 08:10:53 GMT

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    Thank you for your response!
    I was thinking along the following lines:
    Phatic utterances can be regarded as discourse "frames" (even not in
    the technical Lakoffian, Minsky, Tannen etc. sense) - greetings,
    leave-takings, metacommunicative checks. Manuel Padilla Cruz in "On
    the social importance of phatic utterances", following D. Sperber's
    work on culture, refers to knowledge about the use of phatic
    utterances as "cultural metarepresentations". Victoria
    Escandell-Vidal in "Towards a cognitive approach to politeness"
    argues that such knowledge is culture specific and is a kind of ROM,
    which is as easily accessed and automatic as the "non-cultural frames"
    but "cannot be easily modified by other assumptions that
    contradict them".

    My questions is whether metanarrative or "the author's voice" in literary
    works can also be considered phatic communication. It certainly is "framy",
    but does it's use depend on cultural metarepresentations? The same
    seems to apply to phatic utterances in general, which are not
    standardized/conventionalized. Drawing analogy with the existing
    research on politeness, one can ask: is phaticity anticipated (are
    there certain defaults) or inferred as an implicature, or both???

    Cheers,
    Andre

    Saturday, October 23, 2004, 3:04:50 AM, you wrote:
    > Mmm. Interesting. I checked 'frame' with the OED, and there this
    > addition (below) to the new edition, which relates it to a 'metanarrative'
    > (Incidentally, no apparent recognition so far in the OED to 'frame' as used by
    > Lakoff or Fillmore). It doesn't seem to me that 'frame' _should_ involves a
    > 'meta-' element, a 'cultural _meta_-representation' by definition does?, but
    > then cf. Chandra (below) -- Cheers,



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