Re: RT list: In the Tradition of Kantotle

In a message dated 7/18/2009 6:33:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
ceruleancat@squidge.org writes:
I don't know to what extent this would help, but it might be of interest.
Editing style guides have clear instructions regarding coordinated
possession with 's. Joint possession is indicated by a single 's on the final noun,
while separate 's indicate separate possession. In some cases this makes
much more difference: Peter and Paul's books vs. Peter's and Paul's books
(The joint possession option is only available if both nouns can take 's,
so it is not available for conjunction with a pronoun, for instance).

----- Oops. And expect now a 'rule'!

---I don't seem to be able to find the entry in the OED for this. Under
possessive, there is a note: "possessive case n. a name for the GENITIVE case
in modern English (indicated by "'s" added to singular nouns and some
plural nouns not ending in "-s", and by the apostrophe alone added to the "-s"
of plural nouns and to some singular nouns ending in "-s"), which expresses
possession or close association.

In fact I seem to remember that it's like full circle here -- for I have
discussed elsewhere --

(conversational) minutiæ

-- as it were. For what 'sense' (and I assume it's monosemic, rather than
disemic here), 'possess'. I recall raising the point in my review of that
best-seller, "Wittgenstein's Poker". "Was it really _his_? Donal McEvoy
replied elsewhere, "Well, possession is 90% of ownership" (I cannot find his
original words -- he is into law).

-- The Graeco-Roman connection (via Classics of Lit. Hum -- and _yes_,
Grice did have a first in greats! -- but then Grecian was second nature to
him, coming fresh from Head Boy in Clifton) may do. For, to my surprise, I
find that 'genitivus' indeed translates Grecian 'genos' -- and it was
_misinterpreted (Cicero, usually -- the big misenterpreter) as per 'genesis' (i.e.
origin) where it's more like 'kin and kith' (kin cognate with 'genos'). I
trust it was Dionysius who coined the term for the 'casus' here.

Now we may consider

Grice & Strawson, In defense [sic] of a dogma

"sic" merely means 'si' in French -- and I'm using jocularly, to note
(OED): "the spelling 'defence' comes from the 'defens' form; cf. 'hennes',
'hens', 'hence'; 'penis', 'pens', 'pence'; 'ones', 'ons', 'once'; 'sithens',
'since'; 'Duns', 'dunce'. The spelling 'defense' is that now usual in the
United States."

Surely _not_, Strawson & Grice, In defense [sic] of a dogma.

-- so forget about the identity thesis of "and" and the ampersand there.
(Now, in terms of royalties, it should be truth-functional enough! :)).

Suppose it's an 'essay' (I think that, in the minutiæ of things, a 'paper'
should be one-page long).

Grice's and Strawson's essay.

The contextual effect (or something) would rule out any ambiguous
interpretation -- _logically_.

Whereas the 'rule' you propose, charming as it is, allows still do
'disimplicate'

A: I met Grice and Strawson's essay lying on the couch.
B. Was he snoring?
A. [echoically] _He_? "It" at most -- it's inanimate!
B. I don't mean 'essay', I mean Grice.
A. Your irreverences sometime irritate me, but I love you dearly.

Cheers,

J. L. Speranza

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Received on Sat Jul 18 12:39:34 2009