Re: temporality and post-Gricean pragmatics

From: J L Speranza (jls@netverk.com.ar)
Date: Tue Jul 02 2002 - 11:27:17 GMT

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            "In your time the young were post-Marxists
             and their fathers pre-Marxists."
                       G. B. Shaw Buoyant Billions, 1949, p.17

             "It may be useful, then, to have a new look
              at the obvious as it appeared, not to
              post-Marxist historians, but to intelligent
              observers at the time."
                         M. H. Abrams in N. Frye
                         Romanticism Reconsidered, 1963, p.29

    K. Jaszczolt writes:

    >Call for Papers
    >Abstracts are invited for
    >the 8th International Pragmatics Conference,
    >Toronto, Canada, 13-18 July 2003
    >to contribute to the panel
    >'Temporality and Post-Gricean Pragmatics'.
    >The panel organizer will be
    >happy to provide feedback and suggestions
    >before the final submission.

    S. Attardo was recently enquiring about the earliest uses of
    'post-Gricean'. Find above the lattest.

    -- Neo-Griceans (and Griceans) need not apply?

    Incidentally, it is interesting to compare 'post-Gricean' with
    'post-Chomskyan' as per the title of Cambridge author T. Moore in his
    _Understanding language: towards a post-Chomskyan linguistics_ (co-authored
    with C. Carling). (and cfr. OED quotes below). It was my guess that
    "post-X" is okay if used when X is dead, but "post-Chomskyan" proves to be
    an interesting exception to that guess.

    Best,

    JL
    ====
    The OED quotes for 'post-' include:

         1936 J. R. Kantor Objective Psychol Gram., p.100:
         "The post-Aristotelian subjectivists
         divided the individual into soul and body."

         1949 J. R. Firth in Archivum Linguisticum I. 110
         "Slav linguistics are certainly post-Saussurean
         and showing signs even in America of becoming
         post-Bloomfield."

    [This is an interesting quote. Note it's 'post-Bloomfield' rather than
    'post-BloomfieldIAN', and that it's 1949, the year Bloomfield died, so one
    is not sure if Firth was also providing an exception to my guess.]

         1961 F. W. Householder in Saporta & Bastian
              Psycholinguistics 16/1
         "It would seem to a naive observer that the
         question `what is the grammar for?' is an
         obvious one. Nevertheless, until recent years,
         no serious attempt to answer it seems to have
         been made by post-Bloomfieldian linguists."

         1879 J. Jacobs in 19th Cent. Sept. 490
         "The analogous Triune Deity of post-Buddhistic
         Brahmanism."

         1963 Times Lit. Suppl. 1 Mar. 150/1
         "The general context of post-Cartesian thought."

          "post-Chaucerian" =
          "after the lifetime of Chaucer; specially,
          of a poet writing after, and influenced by, Chaucer.

         1966 Eng. Stud. XLVII. 172
         "The foregoing are the only instances of
         post-Chaucerian spiced conscience that
         I have been able to discover."

         1970 Jrnl. Linguistics VI. 130
         "With a side glance at some post-Chomskyan developments."

         1975 Amer. Speech 1973 XLVIII154
         "According to the post-Chomskyan revisionist
         Charles J. Fillmore, however, `there are
         reasons for questioning the deep-structure
         validity of the traditional division between
         subject and predicate'."

         1864 Pusey Lect. Daniel 542
         "Literature collected in post-Christian
         times by the Sassanidae."

          1899 T. Veblen Theory of Leisure Class 288
          "The ostensibly post-Darwinian concept of
          a meliorative trend in the process of evolution."

          post-Einsteinian = "subsequent to the work of
          Einstein; involving or pertaining to concepts
          developed later than the theories of relativity."
     
          1938 S. Chase Tyranny of Words, p.89
          "Bridgman develops various concepts for `length'
          in post-Einsteinian terms."

          1883 Harper's Mag. Jan. 304/2
          "This most delightful of the post-Elizabethan poets."

    [It can't be Thom Gunn]

            post-Freudian = As a noun:
            "someone whose psychotherapeutic ideas
            or practice have developed and diverged
            from strictly Freudian doctrine; someone
            whose views have been influenced as a result
            of Freudian theory". As an adj.: "subsequent
            to the impact and influence of Freudian ideas."
            (earliest quotes for each use below)

            1938 Essays & Stud. 1937 XXIII. 82
            "He [sc. Balzac] had little to learn of
            normal psychology from the post-Freudians."

            1964 E. Becker in I. L. Horowitz New Sociol. 114
            "Mills has here failed to push on to a fully
            post-Freudian social psychology."

            1810 C. Lamb Lett. II. 97,
            "I should suspect these personifications
            are the Translator's. They sound post-Homeric."

            1960 J. Bayley Characters of Love, p.258
            "Both D. H. Lawrence and E. M. Forster use
            them [sc. symbolic patterns] in a discernibly
            post-Jamesian manner."

            1843 Mill Logic I. i. iii. 79
            "His philosophical views are generally those
            of the post-Kantian movement, represented by
            Schelling and Hegel."

            1960 New Left Rev. May-June 5/1
            "The more sophisticated elaboration of
            post-Keynesian evolutionary theory."

            1949 G. B. Shaw Buoyant Billions, p. 17
            "In your time the young were post-Marxists
            and their fathers pre-Marxists."

            1963 MH Abrams in N Frye Romanticism Reconsidered 29
            "It may be useful, then, to have a new look
            at the obvious as it appeared, not to post-Marxist
            historians, but to intelligent observers at the time."

            1865 Mill Exam. Hamilton's Philos. xxvii. 542
            "Applied mathematics in its post-Newtonian
            development does nothing to strengthen these errors."

            1928 A. Huxley in Vogue 28 Nov. 122/3
            "A form which the critical intelligence of
            post-Nietzschean youth can respect."

            1885 E. Hatch in Encycl. Brit. XVIII. 427/1
            "In the later and the probably post-Pauline
            epistles the apocalyptic elements are rare."

            1899 Hobson Ruskin 27
            "The great masters of the post-Raphaelite
            schools in Italy and in England."

            1949.J. R. Firth in Archivum Linguisticum I. 110
            "Slav linguistics are certainly post-Saussurean
            and showing signs even in America of becoming
            post-Bloomfield."

            1958 Times Lit. Suppl. 17 Jan. 27/1
            "It is not clear how much of the post-Stalinist
            course in the Soviet Union would fall under
            the same condemnation."
     
             1938 H. Palmer Post-Victorian Poetry p. ix,
             "Because of the amount of space that has been
             taken up by the verse dating from 1900
             the subject-matter seems to justify the
             selection of the title, Post-Victorian Poetry."

             1965 New Statesman 7 May 736/1
             "The technical maerlée of early Renaissance
             polyphony and sensuous post-Wagnerian harmony."

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