RT list: A horse says neigh

-- hard to swallow for some paleo-Griceans, but hey, that's the title of an
 article in "Science", 208, 1349-1351, by N. Wade.

Browsing OED's entry for 'go' as Valley-Girlism, I find that a lot of what
Grice called, jocularly, 'utter' (for doing this or that with the intention
to mean -- make believe -- that p or q -- corresponds to 'go'
 
       "Pop" goes the weasel
 
The problem with 'go' is that the first use to actually 'mean' "say" is
Americanistic (McInerney) and VERY late!
 
--- As my friend S. Bayne would say (elsewhere) "Surely we don't _say_,
'Colourless green ideas sleep furiously".
 
OED, go.
 
Add: [I.] [10.] b. Hence, to utter (the noise indicated); with
direct speech: to say, utter in speech. Now often in the historic present.
colloq.
 
1836 DICKENS Pickw. (1837) ix. 85 He was roused by a loud shouting of the
post-boy on the leader. ‘Yo-yo-yo-yo-yoe,’ went the first boy. ‘
Yo-yo-yo-yoe!’ went the second. 1895 T. W. CONNOR in Waites & Hunter Illustr.
Victorian Songbk. (1984) 144 She was a dear little dickey bird, ‘Chip, chip, chip,’
 she went. 1939 L. BROWN Beer Barrel Polka (song) 3 They want to throw
their cares away They all go lah-de-ah-de-ay. 1957 [see BOING int.]. 1968 L.
DEIGHTON Only when I Larf xii. 160 Shouting idiotic things and going, ‘Whoop’
, ‘Zap’, and ‘Yap’, all the time. 1975 in C. Allen Plain Tales from Raj
xix. 201 ‘What's the trouble? Why did you hit him?’ ‘Oh,’ he says, ‘I was
walking down the platform and he twirled his little moustache and went, “
Hmm, hmm!”’ 1988 J. MCINERNEY Story of my Life vii. 127 Alison? he goes.
Are you all right?
 
What d'you say, N. Wade?
 
What we should ponder on 'utter', too, is how jocular it can be interpreted
 as: surely it only utters (i.e. outs) when you SQUEAZE it. The idea that
it's the "out" of an "in" is _otiose_ if not downright wrong vis a vis
Grice's functionalist views in "Method in philosophical psychology".
 
Cheers,

J. L. "Say it with flowers" Speranza ('floral dictiveness')

Refs.
Hare, R. M. on 'dictor', 'phrastic', neustic, clistic, tropic,
      Austin, on 'rhetic', 'phatic', 'phonic', and 'that'-clause (first
use in the OED).
      Grice, 'dictive' in WoW, "Valedictory Essay" ("They're having a
party at the Dept. of Philosophy")
       Davidson on the OED on 'saying that'. -- with 'that' as
demonstrative, never a 'that'-clause originally.
       JLSperanza, Review of Hare, Quantum pragmatics -- Q. P.-- some
subatomic particles
          of logic -- in the Urmson festchrift (meant to be) -- to which
J. Hornsby did
          contribute -- Hare's essay came out in the Phil. Rev. and was
compiled in his
          "Universal Prescriptions and other essays".

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Evidently, Grice himself saw dictive meaning and what is said as ....
mood, assertive force) and the 'assertion-sign' as used by Frege and Russell.
... Recanati is presenting Hare's phrastic-tropic-neustic distinction and
how it ... this actually contained the other part of Hare's dictor, the
tropic. ...
www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/PUB/WPL/02papers/wharton.pdf - Similar -
by TIM WHARTON - Cited by 5 -
 

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