Re: RT list: Lasciate ogni speranza voi ch'entrate

Dear Capone,

(1) I don't think that one has to have many publications to participate in
a discussion, be it on any aspect of relevance or Peirce or whatever.

(2) The so-called "scattered remarks" by Speranza ARE very often thought
provoking. (Yes, I admit, they are written in a funny style!) You cannot
just ridicule someone by asking him/her to submit to YOU a list of
publication. It is possible that your "cognitive" research does not fit
into this kind of thinking, but we have to be democratic, don't we? So you
can continue to publish on any theories of mind, neuroscince or
what-have-you. And, whenever you see a message from Speranza, you can
simply delete it, without even opening it. You ARE completely free to do
whatever you like, aren't you?

(3) If you would like to delete Speranza from the list, then, I'm afraid
to say, there will remain very little on the list. I have seen no
discussion at all on any topics on the list for many years now.

Buona giornata, carissimo Capone! E, abbi un po' di pazienza (e pieta di
noi ignoranti!). Il mondo non è solo quello che noi crediamo di 'sapere'.

All the very best,

Ghanshyam Sharma

> In a message dated 1/13/2010 3:35:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> alessandro.capone@istruzione.it writes:
> Speranza,
> we would love to read some paper of yours - do send us one or a
> reference,
> instead of sending us scattered remarks.
>
> ----
>
> Sure, thanks, and for the majestic 'we'. In any case, You should learn to
> love my scattered remarks! I _am_ scattered remarks.
>
> But must say that for my most recent publication, an ISBN edited by the
> University of Southern Connecticut, of all presses, I had to revise my
> publications and unpublications, and I notice that, ha ha, like Grice, I
> never
> published but just TALKED and only got published when people ASKED me too!
>
> In any case, I managed to publish my first paper in an OLD volume of the
> proceedings of an international congress of philosophy, in, of all places,
> the Fascist building of the Faculty of Philosophy in the University of
> Buenos
> Aires, overlooking the River Plate. Great experience, sharing the podium
> as we call it, with J. R. Searle, who was staying in a hotel on Calle
> Libertad, and signed my copy of P.G.R.I.C.E., with a memorable, "To Mr.
> Hope, in
> memory of Mr. Grace", J. I. Biro, D. Davidson, R. Rorty, etc. Those were
> the days of big congresses. Anyway, I presented my thing in English,
> which I
> called, and got published in the proceedings as
>
> "On the way of conversation"
>
> --- my idea was to echo Grice's "way of words", with a vengeance. In that
> essay, which is published as "Estudios and Investigaciones" I manage to
> discuss various things. I even managed to add a postcript with results
> from the
> actual discussion following my presentation. I recall, and I cite him in
> my paper, p. 51, I think, C. A. Alchourron. The example I chose,
> horribly,
> was:
>
> Overheard at the Congress
>
> A: How did you find Buenos Aires?
> B: I haven't been mugged yet.
>
> Alchourron, an Argentine aristocrat, got so offended, and would shout
> aloud, "You _ARE_ mugged in Stockholm, and nobody gives diddly". Anyway,
> the
> thing got published.
>
> The next thing is something cost me years. I was attending this PhD
> seminar
> with Guariglia, and Habermas was visiting, of all places, Buenos Aires.
> Guariglia told me, "You have to meet him", and I did. The thing was
> published
> and only years later I found out that Habermas quoted me in his
> "Pragmatics of Communication", MIT. The thing I called, to echo Horn,
> which is
> cited in The Philosopher's Index abstract for it, "Greek Grice". I titled
> it,
> horribly, "German Grice", only to learn much later that, rather, Grice was
> an
> English Kant. So there. My epigraph in that paper is from Lewis Carroll,
>
> I said it in Hebrew, but I forgot that English is what you speak.
>
> Or something.
>
> Then a friend of mine, Anne Ghersi, had become a member -- the only South
> American one -- of the London, indeed Luton-based Lewis Carroll Society.
> She
> sent on my behalf this impenetrable paper, which I called,
>
> Impenetrability
>
> It got published, as I later found out in the pages of the journal of the
> Lewis Carroll Society, called, appropriately, Jabberwocky. I was surprised
> that I got cited by a German lady who wrote her MA on that, or something.
> I
> managed to quote a lot from Christ Church authors there, seeing that
> Carroll was one, and Pears. On the whole it was too impenetrable, but the
> argument was a good one, if you can find it.
>
> The next thing, my PhD advisor, E. A. Rabossi, was giving this conference
> in Salta, out of the way from any human place you could ever be, and he
> said, "You should come to think and teach them some Grice". I did, and
> years
> later I got a letter from The Philosopher's Index asking me for the
> abstract,
> as the thing had been published in the Proceedings. I called it
> "Conversational Immanuel", and the plot is pretty Gricean in parts.
>
> By the time, I swore that I would never write anything BUT with the words
> "conversation", "pragmatic" and "Grice" in the title, but there you are.
>
> Cheers,
>
> J. L. Speranza
> for the Grice Circle
>
>
>
Received on Thu Jan 14 08:41:13 2010