Re: Why do human communicate?

From: Robin Setton (Robin.Setton@eti.unige.ch)
Date: Fri Dec 13 2002 - 10:17:53 GMT

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    Re. Purpose of communication (Tim Wharton):

    It seems to me that both the evolutionary argument (one of the main
    underpinnings of RT) and
    the observations of pragmaticists and others over the last 50 years
    converge on the following assumptions:
    A that the ability to communicate enhances fitness enormously by allowing
    socialisation,
    B that language further increases this advantage hugely by allowing (1) far
    greater specification in the
    communication of assumptions and the object of intentions (2) communication
    of recursive conceptual and intentional
    structures like hypotheticals, conditionals, attributed intentions etc.,
    which both allow, at least, in favourable conditions, the negotiation of
    jointly constructed or compatible mental models as a basis for social
    planning, etc.

    I assume that most people working in pragmatics and verbal communication
    would agree that
    the idea that the primary purpose of communication is the transfer of
    information about the world
    is a pre-pragmatic fallacy dating back to a time (pre-Austin, Grice, Searle
    etc.) when only the propositional
    content of utterances was recognised. In other words, taking the Prague
    'functions of language' as a rough starting point, the 'persuasive' or
    'manipulative' (in the absence of a more neutral term) function - modifying
    the hearer's cognitive environment, i.e. the assumptions-under-beliefs they
    entertain - seems from the evidence to be primary in verbal communication,
    with information and 'social-ritual' functions subserving it (most
    obviously, adducing statistics and examples in an argument, or using
    stylised, marked or socially/historically loaded language and symbols).

    Orality and spontaneity correlate with persuasiveness (use of prosody),
    i.e, speech seems more obviously adapted to the goal of modifying the
    hearer's assumptions by acting on real-time, psychophysiological processes
    (viz the key role of prosody, word order choices, the position of discourse
    markers and connectors) whereas information proper is much more efficiently
    and usefully conveyed on media which also allow storage and reference
    (writing, tables, diagrams, formulas...). This seems clear to anyone
    working constantly on actual communicative acts like conference speeches
    (to rfer selfishly to personal experience, in simultaneous interpreting,
    for example, the core challenge lies in reencoding and rexpressing
    ostension/intentionality online in another language, i.e. complex
    propositions embedded in complex attitudes, not just complex facts;
    political discourse is much more difficult than purely 'technical'
    discourse).

    In that light all the definitions of the purpose of communication, or of
    making utterances, which Tim cites
    (Grice, Neale, Hauser) seem to address only part of the range of
    possibilities generated by B (1) and (2) above.

    So as regards Timéàs final question, it seems that 'information 'about the
    world' must _always_ be 'filtered' through cognitive states inasmuch as
    communication is always between at least two 'cognitive devices'. But this
    sounds again as if the primary purpose of human communication is to convey
    accurate information, almost deploring that it must be 'filtered' through
    cognitive devices.
    Rather, we cannot but communicate assumptions-under-attitudes/(='cognitive
    states'?), assumptions irrevocably tagged with belief values, the
    communication of a 'fact' would simplz be the limiting case of successful
    communication of an assumption tagged with a high degree of evidentiality.

    Hoping this seems relevant,

    Robin (Setton)

    At 07:32 13.12.02 +0000, you wrote:
    >Dear all,
    >
    >Why do humans communicate? I've been thinking about this question recently
    >and, although I realise it may be a little tangential to the concerns of
    >some fellow-listers (to whom I apologise in advance), I was wondering if
    >anyone could shed any light on it for me.
    >
    >Neale (1992) raises the issue of the 'purpose' of communication when
    >discussing Grice's (1969) revision of Clause (1) of his original 3-clause
    >characterisation of non-natural meaning. Grice makes a change from "U
    >intends... (1) A to produce some particular response r" to "U intends... (1)
    >A to think that U thinks that p". This leads Grice to distinguish between
    >utterances in which the speaker's intention is to get the hearer to think
    >that the speaker holds a particular belief (or some other propositional
    >attitude), and utterances uttered with the _further_ intention of getting
    >the hearer to come to hold that belief or propositional attitude (on the
    >strength of their thinking that the speaker holds that belief or
    >propositional attitude).
    >
    >Neale goes on (p. 545): "One worry about the suggested revision is that it
    >does not comport well with the commonly held view that the primary purpose
    >of communication is the transfer of information about the world: on the
    >revised account, the primary purpose seems to be the transfer of information
    >about one's mental states." Neale is referring back to a point originally
    >made in McDowell (1980) "The primary point of making assertions is not to
    >instill into others beliefs about one's assertions, but to inform others ...
    >about the subject matter of one's assertions (which need not be, though of
    >course it may be, the asserter's beliefs)."
    >
    >In the literature on nonhuman animal communciation, the 'function' of a
    >trait is looked at in terms of its effects on survival and reproduction -
    >basically, its consequences for the species' fitness. Starting from the
    >presumption that we might adopt the same strategy when we try to give an
    >account for human communciation (which - I realise - may not be to
    >everyone's taste) can anyone tell me why informing others about "the subject
    >matter of one's assertions" - i.e. transferring information about the
    >world - should be regarded as more fitness-enhancing than instilling into
    >others "beliefs about one's assertions" - i.e. transferring information
    >about one's mental states?
    >
    >Hauser (1998) discusses many of the functions of the individual
    >communication systems of nonhuman animals, but essentially all of these boil
    >down to the observation that "communication provides for conveying
    >information _and_ for expressing to others what has been perceived" (my
    >emphasis). As far as I can see, Hauser gives equal weight to both conjuncts.
    >Johnson-Laird (1990 - quote taken from Hauser) writes: "communication is a
    >matter of causal influence... the communicator [must] construct an internal
    >representation of the external world, and then... carry out some symbolic
    >behaviour that conveys the content of that representation. The recipient
    >must first perceive the symbolic behaviour, i.e. construct its internal
    >representation, and then from it construct a further internal representation
    >of the state that it signifies". The information being transmitted in this
    >view is only indirectly 'about' the world. The 'primary purpose' seems to be
    >the transfer of mental states.
    >
    >I tend toward this latter view (with reservations about others of
    >Johnson-Laird's claims), since in acts of communication by both human and
    >nonhuman animals, information 'about the world' is generally (always?)
    >'filtered' through cognitive states.
    >
    >And Grice can't have been _wrong_, for God's sake...
    >
    >Best wishes (and Happy Christmas) to all,
    >
    >Tim
    >
    >
    >Refs:
    >Grice (1969) Utterers meaning and intentions. Philosophical Review 78.
    >Hauser (1996) The Evolution of Communication. Cambridge, MA: MIT Press.
    >McDowell (1980) Meaning, communication and knowledge, in Z van Staaten,
    >Philosophical Subjects, Oxford.
    >Neale (1992) Paul Grice and the philosophy of language. Linguistics and
    >Philosophy 15.5.
    >
    >---------------------------------------
    >Tim Wharton
    >twharton@clara.co.uk
    >t.wharton@ucl.ac.uk
    >tel. +44 (0)1273 477281
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    >
    >---------------------------------------
    >Tim Wharton
    >twharton@clara.co.uk
    >t.wharton@ucl.ac.uk
    >tel. +44 (0)1273 477281
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    >
    >
    Prof. Robin Setton
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