Non-member submission from [Randy LaPolla <ctrandy@cityu.edu.hk>]

From: robyn carston (robyn@linguistics.ucl.ac.uk)
Date: Thu Jun 13 2002 - 01:03:05 GMT

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    >Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:54:15 +0100 (BST)
    >
    >This is in responce to both Steve Nicolle's question about RT and other
    >theories, and M. J Murphy's question about "The present king of France
    >is bald".
    >
    >About five or six years ago I brought up the question that Steve
    >recently brought up, and argued that RT is much more compatible with a
    >functional approach to language, such as Hopper's "emergent grammar"
    >view, than with the Chomsky/Fodor view and wrote a paper which showed
    >how an RT-informed perspective can explain the origin and function of
    >language, and the typological varieties we find. Basically, the idea is
    >that there is no "coding" stage, as assumed by the modular approach. The
    >whole process of communication is based on ostension and inference. A
    >communicator makes an ostensive act, and even the recognition of the
    >ostensive act (what it is) and the fact that it is an ostensive act
    >(i.e. an action with a communicative intention) involves inference. The
    >observer/hearer of the ostensive act begins this inferential process
    >because of the assumption of the principle of relevance (i.e. assumes
    >the person is rational and is doing the ostensive act for a reason and
    >that it is worth it for the observer to try to figure out what the
    >reason is). The rest of the process is then figuring out the reason for
    >the communicator making that particular ostensive act. It isn't
    >important what the ostensive act is; what is important is figuring out
    >the communicator's communicative intention (i.e. why the communicator
    >made the ostensive act). The whole process of communication then is one
    >of ostension and inference. The role of language is simply to be a more
    >explicit ostensive act to constrain the observer/hearer's inferential
    >process (and it isn't just grammatical forms that do this, as suggested
    >by the "conceptual-procedural" distinction; all use of language has this
    >function). Language is a tool like any other tool, and also part of and
    >influenced by the overall culture in which it develops and is used: it
    >is a conventionalized way of performing an action, and so each culture
    >will develop different forms as individuals, in attempting to
    >communicate, constrain the interpretation of different aspects of
    >semantic domains or not constrain them, constrain them to different
    >degrees, and use different formal mechanisms to constrain them. The
    >patterns that a society conventionalizes into its language are those
    >that are used repeatedly by many individuals to constrain the
    >inferential process in a particular way, just as a path develops in a
    >field because many people walk the same way through the field.
    >
    >My problem with the whole "The present king of France is bald"
    >discussion is that it assumes what we are doing in communication is
    >interpreting linguistic expressions, and so these can be interpreted out
    >of context, though some contexts may disambiguate particular "ambiguous"
    >expressions. My view is that what we are doing in communication is
    >trying to understand the communicator's communicative intention, and we
    >do this by creating a context in which the communicator's ostensive act
    >is relevant (i.e. "makes sense"). Having a linguistic form as an
    >ostensive act makes construction of the context of interpretation
    >easier, as it constrains the assumptions that could possibly be part of
    >the context of interpretation. Therefore, rather than saying it is the
    >context that constrains the interpretation of the linguistic form, it is
    >the linguistic form that constrains the context (of interpretation).
    >
    >In terms of the particular syntactic theory one uses to look at the
    >linguistic forms that develop, any theory compatible with the idea of
    >language as a way of constraining the search for relevance (essentially
    >any theory that takes meaning and communication as basic rather than
    >abstract form) would be OK. Halliday's Systemic Functional Grammar (and
    >his whole way of looking at language and communication) is particularly
    >compatible with this approach. Role and Reference Grammar is also
    >compatible, and in fact I put a bit of this theory in the discussion of
    >the motivations for different focus structures in Chapter 5 of the book
    >Van Valin and I did together (Syntax: Structure, Meaning and Function.
    >CUP, 1997). (I'm not sure what Christoph Unger meant by saying we
    >'attempt putting "pragmatic functions"
    >into the syntax'--what we are doing is trying to show that pragmatic
    >factors are the initial motivation for some syntactic patterns.)
    >Theories that are simply formal models and not based on communication at
    >all (such a Chomsky's), I feel, are not compatible with this way of
    >looking at language. The modular approach is particularly incompatible,
    >as it assumes the modules are informationally incapsulated. The
    >inference involved in communication is of coursed based on all sorts of
    >information, and so the assumption of ostension and inference as the
    >basis of communication implies language use is based on general
    >cognitive abilities, not on informationally encapsulated modules.
    >
    >The original paper I wrote back in 1997 and presented at the University
    >of Melbourne as "Grammaticalization as the development of constraints on
    >the search for relevance." on August 15, 1997, is available at
    >http://personal.cityu.edu.hk/~ctrandy/GACRT.pdf. This paper was really
    >written for an RT audience, and so I never published it.
    >
    >Randy
    >
    >
    >------
    >Randy J. LaPolla, PhD
    >Associate Professor of Linguistics
    >CTL, City University of Hong Kong
    >Tat Chee Ave., Kowloon
    >HONG KONG
    >
    >ctrandy@cityu.edu.hk or Randy.LaPolla@cityu.edu.hk
    >Tel: (852) 2788-8075 (O)
    >FAX: (852) 2788-8706
    >http://personal.cityu.edu.hk/~ctrandy/index.htm
    >

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